WHO IS GOD THE
FATHER?
IS HE INVOLVED
WITH US ON EARTH?
WHO IS THE GOD
OF THE OLD TESTAMENT?
IS GOD THE
FATHER ETERNAL?
CAN GOD THE
FATHER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIN?
CAN WE SEE OR
HEAR GOD THE FATHER?
HOW CAN WE KNOW
IF THE SCRIPTURE IS REFERRING TO CHRIST OR THE
FATHER IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?
This article
contains new knowledge which has been lost since the
first era of God’s Church the Ephesus Era.
Before we start
our bible study on this all important subject I would
like to point out some vital study helps for this
paper.
Strong's
concordance is used throughout this article to
identify the Hebrew and Greek words used for the word
God.
The Hebrew 3068
is the word for Lord, or God. Strong’s
concordance has the following explanation for this
word:
Yehovah, self
existent, or eternal Jehovah, and Jewish national name
for God. This 3068 can only be used when
referring to God the Father only.
The following
scriptures are proof:
Gen 17:1 When Abram
was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to
Abram and said to him, "I am
Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless.
Note that
carefully I am Almighty God this is God the Father.
Exo 20:2 "I am the
LORD your God, who brought you out of the
Exo 20:3 "You shall
have no other gods before Me.
In this above
verse the Hebrew H430 is Elohiym and can be used for
either God the Father or God the Word. Or in some
cases can be referring to both the Word and the
Father.
In this verse
H430 is referring to the Father. This is easily proven
because
1. You shall have no other God’s before me.
2. This article will prove that it was God the Father
who brought the children out of
WHO IS GOD
THE FATHER
The following
verses prove that there is one true God.
Joh 17:3 And this is eternal life, that
they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus
Christ whom You have sent.
1Co 8:4 Therefore
concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we
know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is
no other God but one.
1Co 8:5 For even
if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on
earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
1Co 8:6 yet for us
there is
one God, the Father, of whom are all
things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ,
through whom are all
things, and through whom we live.
1Co 8:7 However, there is
not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with
consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a
thing offered to an idol; and their conscience,
being weak, is defiled.
1Ti 1:17 Now to the
King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone
is wise, be
honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
Zec 14:9 And the
LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day
it shall be "The LORD is
one," And His name one.
Isa 57:15 For thus
says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity,
whose name is
Holy: "I dwell in the high and holy place,
With him who
has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the
spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the
contrite ones.
Jas 2:19 You
believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the
demons believe and tremble!
Even the devils
believe that there is One God, how much more the
children of enlightenment should know about their God
the Father.
Psa 83:18 That they
may know that You, whose name alone is
JEHOVAH, Are
the Most High over all the earth.
Did you notice
this verse?
Whose
name alone
is JEHOVAH.
Jehovah is 3068
this is solid proof that 3068 is God the Father only.
It says whose name alone is the Lord. There is no
other Jehovah, there is only One God the Father 3068
is only used for God the Father.
How many times in
scripture does God the Father have to say that He is
the One True God before people will believe Him? There
is One True God, He is God the Father and there is His
born Son, Jesus Christ.
These amazing
scriptures are solid hard evidence of truth which has
been suppressed in God’s church since the disciples.
This is amazing and yet totally backed up by
scripture.
It is time for
God the Father to be revealed. We have not known who
He is. We have not known that there is ONLY ONE TRUE
GOD this has not been revealed till now.
This is new
knowledge for this era of the church.
Joh 16:25 "These
things I have spoken to you in figurative language;
but the time is coming when I will no longer speak
to you in figurative language, but I will tell you
plainly about the Father.
Did you read
that? Read it again slowly let this fabulous
knowledge sink into your mind and heart, Christ said
He will show us plainly about the Father. This
is that time now, we are now being shown the Father
plainly. Ask yourself honestly:
Do you know who
the Father is?
Did you know He
is the one true God?
Did you know that
knowledge of Him has to be revealed?
Did you know that
this is the time for Him to be revealed plainly by
Christ?
Did you know that
He was the Father of the Word, before creation began,
and that the Word is the born Son of God the Father? Note that I
said The Word is the BORN Son of God, before
creation.
If you did not
know all of the above then this is new knowledge for
you.
Now look at these
amazing scriptures, the fact that the knowledge of God
the Father has been suppressed since the time of the
disciples is made plain in the Eras of the Church.
Notice these
scriptures carefully.
Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I
have this
against you, that you have left your first love.
This is Christ
addressing the first Era of the Church, the Church at
What is the first
love?
Luk 10:27 So he
answered and said, "'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR
GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, WITH
ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND,' and
'YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'"
This is the first
love, to love God with all your heart and mind. Now
this love of the Father was forgotten, they did
not continue to love God, in the first Era of
God’s church, they left their first love.
God was left out
of things since the first era of God’s church.
To lose the love
of God means that knowledge of Him will soon be lost
also. We know this is true because of our past friends
in the church, when they lost the love of God. It did not
take long for most of the knowledge of Holy Days and
knowledge of Him to be lost.
Let's look at
some vital knowledge about God the Father and Jesus
Christ which has been lost since the Ephesus Era of
God’s church.
I will mention
here the fact that Jesus Christ is the born Son of
God. This birth occurred before creation began. Let's
look at a few scriptures on this subject.
Joh 1:1 In the
beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in
the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things
were made through Him, and without Him nothing was
made that was made.
In the
beginning was the Word:
This means at some time, at a commencement, at a time
called the beginning.
Please note eternity has no starting point.
This means at a point of time called the beginning,
the Word [who we know is Christ] came into existence.
And the Word
was with God:
Once the Word existed He was then with God, they were
then together...before this God the Father was alone.
And the Word
was God:
Once He was born He was God, He was the Son of God.
THE WORD AND JESUS CHRIST ARE ONE AND THE SAME.
THE WORD IS GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS GOD.
He was in the
beginning with God:
At His birth He was with God the Father, after this
period of time called the beginning.
All things were
made through Him:
God the Father made all things through Jesus Christ.
And without Him
nothing was made that was made:
God the Father made all things through Jesus Christ.
Let's see if we
understand and examine this a little closer.
In the beginning was the Word
We stated here
that a particular point in time was called the
beginning. Eternity has no starting point but a
time called the beginning has a starting point.
I will ask you a
very interesting question. Have the heavens and
the earth always existed with no beginning?
Or were they at some point in time brought into being?
The answer is
undoubtedly that there was a time when they never
existed and that at some time they had a starting
point. I am sure every reader would agree with this
point, now that we have that firmly in our minds turn
to Gen 1 v 1.
Gen 1:1 In the
beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
This verse in the
beginning is saying that the heavens and the earth at
some point in time called the beginning came into
being, before that point in time they never existed. It is the
same with John 1 v 1-3.
In the beginning was the Word at some point in time He
came into existence by a Birth.
Before that time He did not exist.
He was born a Son of God, He had a starting point, He
has not inhabited eternity the scripture tells us that
there is ONE God who has inhabited eternity. ONE TRUE
GOD.
We see here
plainly that the knowledge that the Father is in fact
the Father of the Word before He was born of Mary has
been suppressed. The disciples knew it but since
the first era of God’s Church the knowledge has been
lost.
So we see that
the knowledge of God the Father and Christ His Son,
has been left by the 1st Era of the Church, but now
see this amazing new knowledge.
The last era of
God’s Church, the Laodicean Era, has the knowledge of
Christ and God the Father restored, notice the
following.
Rev 3:14 "And to the angel
of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things
says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the
Beginning of the creation of God:
Notice that line,
the beginning of the creation of God, this is
referring to Christ and the fact that He was born in
the beginning of Creation. How interesting.
This knowledge of
the Father appears to have been suppressed notice
these following scriptures on this very subject.
Luk 11:52 "Woe to you
lawyers! For you have taken away the key of
knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and
those who were entering in you hindered."
Notice that the
key of knowledge was taken away.
Joh 16:31 Jesus answered them, "Do you now
believe?
Joh 16:32 Indeed the hour is coming, yes,
has now come, that you will be scattered, each to
his own, and will leave Me alone. And yet I am not
alone, because the Father is with Me.
Mat 11:27 All things have been delivered
to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son
except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father
except the Son, and the one
to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Did you notice
that scripture? Read it again the knowledge of
the Son is revealed by the Father and the knowledge of
the Father is revealed by the Son.
THIS IS
REVEALED KNOWLEDGE
If we want to
know about the Father we need to go on our knees and
ask for this knowledge to be given to us. There
is no other way.
Now to answer our
question at the start of this article: Who is the
Father?
THE FATHER IS
THE ONE TRUE GOD.
HE IS THE ONLY
GOD WHO HAS EXISTED FOREVER.
HE IS SELF
EXISTENT.
HE INHABITS
ETERNITY.
HE IS THE HIGH
AND LOFTY ONE.
HE IS THE
FATHER OF THE WORD.
THE WORD IS THE
BORN SON OF THE FATHER BEFORE CREATION.
Some people think
that the Father is not directly involved in our lives,
let's look at the following.
IS GOD THE
FATHER INVOLVED?
We have had an
idea that God the Father has handed everything over to
Christ and that He is just up in heaven at the
controls of the universe uninterested and unaware of
what is going on down here on earth. Nothing
could be further from the truth. God the Father is
totally interested in what is going on here on earth
and is involved heavily with everything. He is not out
of the picture. We have imagined that God and the Lord
in the Old Testament were mainly referring to Christ.
Read on for the
truth, for new knowledge for this era of the church.
I am not trying
to take anything away from Jesus Christ, He is our
High Priest, Our Saviour, Our Elder Brother, and the
very Son of God, but He Himself is in subjection to
the Father and always put the Father above Himself in
keeping with the scriptures. We are telling
you the truth about the Father. This truth is
revealed by Christ. {Matt 11 v 27}
1Co 15:27 For "HE
HAS PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIS FEET." But when He says
"all things are put under Him," it is
evident that He who put all things under Him is
excepted.
1Co 15:28 Now when
all things are made subject to Him, then the Son
Himself will also be subject to Him who put all
things under Him, that God may be all in all.
Joh 14:28 You have heard Me say to you, 'I
am going away and coming back
to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice
because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My
Father is greater than I.
The Father is
working.
Joh 5:17 But Jesus
answered them, "My
Father has been working until now, and I have been
working."
Our loving and
great God the Father loves us so much and is so
involved with us that He won't do anything until He
reveals it to His prophets.
Amo 3:7 Surely the
Lord GOD does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret
to His servants the prophets.
Let's have a look
at the start of the human race and see how God the
Father was involved.
Gen 3:8 And they
heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the
garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife
hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God
among the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9 Then the
LORD God called to Adam and said to him, "Where are
you?"
This is speaking
here of H3068 God the Father, right at the start of
the human race we see God the Father with a hands on
approach. It was Him who talked with Adam and
Eve.
Astounding, but
none the less true.
Gen 6:5 Then the
LORD saw that the wickedness of man was
great in the earth, and that
every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only
evil continually.
God the Father is
stating that the world was filled with wickedness and
now He planned to do something about it.
Gen 7:1 Then the
LORD said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all
your household, because I have seen that you
are
righteous before Me in this generation.
Here we see God
the Father, telling Noah to go into the
Gen 17:1 When Abram
was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to
Abram and said to him, "I am
Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless.
Gen 17:2 And I will
make My covenant between Me and you, and will
multiply you exceedingly."
Gen 17:3 Then Abram
fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying:
Gen 17:4 "As for
Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall
be a father of many nations.
Gen 17:5 No longer
shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall
be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many
nations.
Here we see God
the Father totally involved in making Abraham the
Father of many nations. He knew all about Abraham,
watched him daily, and took great interest in the
father of the faithful.
Gen 22:16 and said:
"By Myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you
have done this thing, and have not withheld your
son, your only son
Gen 22:17 blessing I
will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your
descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the
sand which is
on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess
the gate of their enemies.
Gen 22:18 In your
seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed,
because you have obeyed My voice."
Here again we see
God the Father sending an angel down to speak to
Abraham, now that Abraham was tested and proved
faithful, God the Father bestowed upon him this most
fabulous blessing of the Father of the nations.
God the Father
is involved.
Exo 20:1 And God
spoke all these words, saying:
Exo 20:2 "I am the
LORD your God, who brought you out of the
Again we see the
amazing truth that God the Father brought the
Israelites out of
Exo 13:3 And Moses
said to the people: "Remember this day in which you
went out of
Our article, Two
Gods on the Mountain, gives the amazing truth in more
detail regarding the new knowledge of how God the
Father gave the Ten Commandments. However I will
repeat a small section here.
Exo 24:9 Then Moses
went up, also Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy
of the elders of Israel,
Exo 24:10 and they
saw the God of
Exo 24:11 But on the
nobles of the children of
Exo 24:12 Then the
LORD said to Moses, "Come up to Me on the mountain
and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone,
and the law and commandments which I have written,
that you may teach them."
Here we see that
the God that the elders saw in verse 10 is H430
{Elohiym} this word
can be used for Christ or the Father, but because they
ate and drank and saw Him we know that it was Christ.
Now in Verse 12
we see the Lord {3068} God the Father, called Moses up
to the mountain and there the Father gave Moses the
Ten Commandments.
We know that you cannot see the Father, so we
know that Moses spoke to Him in a cloud.
Exo 33:9 And it
came to pass, when Moses entered the tabernacle,
that the pillar of cloud descended and stood at the
door of the tabernacle, and the LORD
talked with Moses.
1Ti 1:17 Now to the
King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone
is wise, be
honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
This is fabulous
new knowledge. We have never known that the Father was
involved with His creation like this before.
Now there are
many many more examples for us to learn about but I
suggest that you go to your concordance and look up
Hebrew 3068 and in your own time do a study and see
just how involved God the Father is in our lives, this
is astounding knowledge.
Now to answer
the Question Is God the Father involved?:
THE ANSWER IS
THAT HE IS 100% INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING AND ALWAYS
WILL BE. MOST OF THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES
ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FATHER.
WHICH GOD IS
BEING SPOKEN OF IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?
This knowledge
will lay a solid foundation of what we want to study.
As we read the bible and we come to the word God or
Lord, how do we know if these words are referring to
God the Father or The Word? We don't know this
absolutely vital knowledge unless we go to the
Concordance, look up the meaning of the word, then
look at the context and make a decision based on other
scriptures on that subject. This is all part of the
vital knowledge of God’s word. Everything must be in
harmony and balance. Remember God is not the author of
confusion. Here a little there a little. Now also keep
in mind that who God the Father is has been lost till
now. Here
are the names for God and Lord in the Old Testament,
from the King James + translation of e-Sword.
GOD H430
Plural of H433;
gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in
the plural thus, especially with the article) of the
supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference
to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:
angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very)
great, judges, X mighty.
In the following
verse we see that 430 is Elohiym, this word can be
used for God the Father or The Word {Jesus Christ} or
in some instances it can be used for both.
We will sight
some scriptures to show some of the meanings. This
will allow us to determine which God the scripture is
referring to.
Gen 2:7
And the LORDH3068 GodH430 formedH3335 (H853) manH120
of the dustH6083 ofH4480 the ground,H127 and
breathedH5301 into his nostrilsH639 the breathH5397
of life;H2416 and manH120 becameH1961 a livingH2416
soul.H5315
We have used here
the Strong's concordance to show the numbers for the
words God and Lord.
In the above verse, the word Lord is 3068 this
can only be used for God the Father.
In the above
verse, the word for God 430 is also used. It can be
either God the Father or Christ, but because we see
the 3068 used we know that the 430 in this case is
referring to God the Father.
Because of other
bible knowledge {which we already know} God the Father
created all things by Jesus Christ. We are confident
and know assuredly that this verse is referring to God
the Father, this is so plain and simple.
Gen 1:26 And
GodH430 saidH559, Let us makeH6213 manH120 in our
imageH6754, after our likenessH1823: and let them
have dominionH7287 over the fishH1710 of the
seaH3220, and over the fowlH5775 of the airH8064,
and over the cattleH929, and over allH3605 the
earthH776, and over everyH3605 creepingH7431 thing
that creepethH7430 upon the earthH776.
In the above
verse, we see this verse is referring to both God the
Father and Jesus Christ, because it says let us and in
our image and after our likeness.
The word God 430
is used but means both Gods.
Exo 24:10
And they sawH7200 (H853) the GodH430 of Israel:H3478
and there was underH8478 his feetH7272 as it were a
pavedH3840 workH4639 of a sapphire stone,H5601 and
as it were the bodyH6106 of heavenH8064 in his
clearness.H2892
In the above
scripture, we know that the 430 here spoken of is
Christ only because they saw Him, later verses show
they ate and drank with Him. But the Father called
Moses up and gave him the Commandments. This is again
a clear plain and easily understood scripture.
So we see three
plain examples of how God 430 can be spoken of as:
1. the Father only.
2. both the Father and the Son.
3. and the Son only.
H3068
From H1961;
(the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish
national name of God: Jehovah, the Lord. Compare
H3050, H3069.
This is the
number for God 3068 which can only be used for God the
Father only.
Exo 20:1
And GodH430 spakeH1696 (H853) allH3605 theseH428
words,H1697 saying,H559
Exo 20:2 IH595 am the LORDH3068 thy God,H430
whichH834 have brought thee outH3318 of the
landH4480 H776 of Egypt,H4714 out of the houseH4480
H1004 of bondage.H5650
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt haveH1961 noH3808
otherH312 godsH430 beforeH5921 H6440 me.
Now we see God
{430} and Lord {3068} spoken of here in this verse. So
we know that this is speaking of God the Father only,
the 430 in the three instances mentioned above are
referring here to God the Father.
We know that He
brought the children out of
Because the
following numbers are used infrequently in the Old
Testament we will not elaborate on their meaning.
H410
Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty;
especially the Almighty (but used also of any
deity): God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might
(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in -el.
Gen 16:13
And she calledH7121 the nameH8034 of the LORDH3068
that spakeH1696 untoH413 her, ThouH859 GodH410
seestH7210 me: forH3588 she said,H559 Have I
alsoH1571 hereH1988 lookedH7200 afterH310 him that
seethH7200 me?
This is similar
to 430 in that it can be used for the Father or
Christ.
H3069
A variation of
H3068 (used after H136, and pronounced by Jews as
H430, in order to prevent the repetition of the same
sound, since they elsewhere pronounce H3068 as
H136): God.
This is self
explanatory the 3069 is the same as 3068 and would
therefore be used for only God the Father.
Jdg 6:22
And when GideonH1439 perceivedH7200 thatH3588
heH1931 was an angelH4397 of the LORD,H3068
GideonH1439 said,H559 Alas,H162 O LordH136 GOD!H3069
forH3588 becauseH5921 H3651 I have seenH7200 an
angelH4397 of the LORDH3068 faceH6440 toH413
face.H6440
This has covered
most of the words used for God in the Old Testament,
there are a few others used in a few instances but for
time and space, I would encourage the reader to search
further into other Hebrew words themselves and gain
that knowledge in their own private studies.
LORD H3068
The same as for God.
H136
An emphatic
form of H113; the Lord (used as a proper name of God
only): (my) Lord.
H113
From an unused
root (meaning to rule); sovereign, that is,
controller (human or divine):lord, master, owner.
Compare also names beginning with Adoni.
This word may not
necessarily be used in speaking about God the Father
or the Son, as it could be used for master or a human.
H7706
Shadday......the
almighty
This word is used
over 40 times in the Old Testament. Because it
means the almighty it is referring only to the Father.
H433
Eloah......a
deity......
This word is used
over 50 times in the Old Testament and also has the
meaning where it can be used for a false god.
This covers most
of the words used for Lord. Once again, the reader is
encouraged to do his own study into the other words
used. We
suggest this for time and space allowed here.
The answer to the
question, which God is being spoken of in the Old
Testament?
THE READER WILL
NEED TO DETERMINE WHICH HEBREW WORD IS BEING USED,
BUT MOST ASTOUNDINGLY THE MAJORITY OF USES OF GOD
AND LORD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT ARE REFERRING TO THE
FATHER ONLY. THIS KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN LOST SINCE THE
DISCIPLES.
IS GOD THE
FATHER ETERNAL?
Isa 57:15 For thus
says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity,
whose name is
Holy: "I dwell in the high and holy place,
With him who
has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the
spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the
contrite ones.
Deu 33:27 The
eternal God is your
refuge, And underneath are the
everlasting arms; He will thrust out the enemy from
before you, And will say, 'Destroy!'
1Ti 1:17 Now to the
King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone
is wise, be
honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
The answer to the
Question Is God the Father Eternal?
GOD THE FATHER
IS THE ONE ETERNAL GOD.
CAN GOD THE
FATHER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIN?
We have always
believed that God the Father could not have anything
to do with sin.
I have always
believed that but never really understood why. The
only scripture that I know of that is used to state
this is the following:
Mat 27:46 And about
the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice,
saying, "Eli,
Eli, lama sabachthani?" that
is, "MY GOD, MY
GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
The reason Christ
cried out these words is not because God the Father
could not have anything to do with sin, but the
following is the reason...
Christ came to
earth to die for our sins. He alone had
to bear the sins of the whole earth. He and the Father
were so very close the pain when God the Father could
not be with Him for that short while, was immense. To
bear these sins was a penalty that Christ had to bear
alone, it was not the fact that God the Father could
not have anything to do with sin, the fact was that
Christ simply had to bear it alone. That was why He
came to earth, to pay the penalty for our sins. God
the Father did not have to do this.
Notice this
astounding scripture.
Heb 1:3 who being
the brightness of His
glory and the express image of His person, and
upholding all things by the word of His power, when
He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the
right hand of the Majesty on high,
Did you notice
what that scripture said? BY
HIMSELF PURGED OUR SINS.
Christ had to pay
the penalty by Himself. This is why the Father could
not be with Him.
1Pe 2:24 who
Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree,
that we, having died to sins, might live for
righteousness by whose stripes you were healed.
Again we see: Who
himself bare our sins.
The Father simply
could not help Jesus at that crucial time. To be with
Christ at that time would have meant that His
sacrifice would have been in vain. Christ had to do it
alone.
The reason Christ
had to bear this alone, has nothing to do with whether
or not God the Father can have anything to do with
sin, but because the Father had to forsake Christ for
that small amount of time because the power of God the
Father would have assisted Christ if He had not
forsaken Him.
Now that we have
cleared up the meaning of the two gospel accounts of
that period of time before Christ’s death, let’s move
on to the issue at hand, can God the Father have
anything to do with sin?
Who is the father
of lies, and the greatest sinner of all time? None other
than Satan himself. And yet we see these amazing
scriptures which contain new knowledge and
understanding on this subject for us.
Job 1:6 Now there
was a day when the sons of God came to present
themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came
among them.
Rev 12:9 So the
great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old,
called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole
world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were
cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 Then I
heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation,
and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the
power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of
our brethren, who accused them before our God day
and night, has been cast down.
If God the Father
cannot have anything to do with sin, then how is it
that the Father conducts an audience with the father
of lies, the greatest sinner of all time, Satan the
Devil at regular intervals?
We see quite
plainly that one such occasion occurred concerning
Job, and in the second scripture we see that Satan
comes to God to accuse us on a DAILY basis.
This plainly
states that God the Father talks to Satan regularly,
so we see that He can have something to do with sin.
However we know that He hates sin and that His very
own son had to die because of sin. So we know for sure
that He absolutely hates sin but the scriptures states
that He does come face to face with it on a daily
basis.
The answer to our
question can God the Father have anything to do with
sin?:
YES...HE HAS TO
COME FACE TO FACE WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS BUT HE
HATES SIN.
CAN WE SEE
AND HEAR GOD THE FATHER?
Exo 33:20 But He
said, "You cannot see My face; for no man shall see
Me, and live."
The scripture
states plainly that no man can see God the Father and
live. So how is it that we read in so many scriptures
that God the Father appeared to Moses etc. and others
throughout the bible?
The answer to
this question is that God the Father appears to man in
a number of different ways.
He appears in a
cloud Ex 33 v 9.
He is an invisible God 1 Tim 1 v 17.
He appears in a
vision Gen. 15 v 1.
He appears in a
pillar of fire Ex 14 v 24.
He appears in a
whirlwind Job 38 v 1.
He appears in a
dream 1 Kings 3 v 5
He appears to
people in these ways for to do otherwise would mean
they would die.
As we have
pointed out previously God the Father has a hands on
approach towards His creation and He is involved with
us, so we know He has appeared to people. As we see in
the above scriptures, He does it in different ways and
He makes sure that those people won’t be harmed.
Joh 5:37 And the Father
Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have
neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His
form.
The above
scripture is interesting, but we must be careful what
context this is spoken, you see this was the words of
our Lord Jesus Christ and He was speaking to the Jews
of His day and New Testament readers. He was speaking
to them personally and saying that they themselves had
not heard or seen the Father. This is not referring to
Old Testament times.
Other scriptures
state clearly that God the Father had indeed spoken to
men throughout time, I will sight only two here for
brevity, but the reader can in their own time look up
many more such instances in their own bible study.
The following
scripture shows clearly that when God the Father spoke
to Moses, in a thick cloud, He said that the
people MAY HEAR WHEN I SPEAK WITH YOU.
Exo 19:9 And the
LORD said to Moses, "Behold, I come to you in the
thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak
with you, and believe you forever." So Moses told
the words of the people to the LORD.
Notice that God
points out clearly that the people heard Him but did
not see Him.
Deu 4:12 And the
LORD spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You
heard the sound of the words, but saw no form; you only
heard
a voice.
Deu 4:15 "Take
careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when
the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of
the fire,
Gen 3:9 Then the
LORD God called to Adam and said to him, "Where are
you?"
Gen 3:10 So he
said, "I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was
afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself."
Mat 17:5 While he
was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud
overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of
the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom
I am well pleased. Hear Him!"
Notice again
Christ spoke to the Father and the people heard the
Father answer Christ.
Joh 12:27 "Now My soul is
troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save Me
from this hour'? But for this purpose I came to this
hour.
Joh 12:28 Father, glorify Your name."
Then a voice came from
heaven, saying,
"I have both glorified it and
will glorify it
again."
Joh 12:29 Therefore
the people who stood by and heard it said
that it had thundered. Others said, "An angel has
spoken to Him."
Joh 12:30 Jesus
answered and said, "This voice did
not come because of Me, but for your sake.
We see here quite
plainly that when God the Father spoke people
heard His voice.
The answer to the
Question Can we see and hear the Father?
THE FATHER WAS
HEARD BY MAN AND HE APPEARED IN A CLOUD OR IN A
VISION OR HE WAS INVISIBLE, OR IN A PILLAR OF FIRE,
OR A WHIRLWIND OR IN A DREAM.
I would like to
relate to you an interesting occurrence in relation to
this, and other articles.
Recently I was
asked "Has anybody believed what you are saying in
your articles?"
I would like to
tell you the answer to this interesting question.
Many many years
ago a man had truth to tell to the people, he told
them what things would surely come to pass in their
lifetime. The people laughed at him and thought it was
a joke. They did not believe him, but he kept on
telling them for many many years. He continued, they
laughed and derided him.
More than likely they hated him. But
nonetheless the man continued, because he loved them
and he had a job to do.
This preaching
went on for many years and still the people did not
believe. Then finally one day, one fine and sunny day,
God decided there would be delay no more. The people
had heard the warnings long enough to decide if what
they had heard was truth or not.
And the man went
to a place of safety and his family with him. Others
could have come with him at that time, but they did
not believe what he said, they were still laughing at
him. The weather was fine and sunny and there was no
threat of bad weather to come. So they chose to ignore
his warning that he had told them for so many years.
But then God
closed the door and after that time no one could go to
the place of safety even if they wanted to. That place
of safety was the Ark. Noah’s
But after Noah
and his family were safe in the
THEY DID NOT
BELIEVE...God won’t force
us to believe Him...we have to make that choice.
THE PEOPLE
DIED, THEY CHOSE DEATH, GOD SAYS CHOOSE LIFE.
It is the same
today, God sends His warnings to His people, these
articles are the truth, they are new knowledge, soon
the end will come.
We are now at this very time in the LAODICEAN
era of God’s church.
Mr. Armstrong was the physical leader of the
Philadelphian era, but that has ended. Mr.
Armstrong has been dead a long time. This is now the
last Era of God’s church, the era that will lead into
the time of Jacob’s Trouble...this church is asleep
look at the description of the church in Rev 3 v 14-22
Rev 3:14 "And to the angel
of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things
says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the
Beginning of the creation of God:
Rev 3:15 "I know
your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I
could wish you were cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then,
because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,
I will vomit you out of My mouth.
Rev 3:17 Because
you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have
need of nothing' and do not know that you are
wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked
Rev 3:18 I counsel you to buy from Me
gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich;
and white garments, that you may be clothed, that
the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed;
and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may
see.
Rev 3:19 As many as
I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous
and repent.
Rev 3:20 Behold, I
stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My
voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and
dine with him, and he with Me.
Rev 3:21 To him who
overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne,
as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on
His throne.
Rev 3:22 "He who
has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the
churches."
This church is
fast asleep we are neither hot or cold, will we accept
this knowledge or say we are rich and need nothing? Can we see
this new knowledge or do we need to anoint our eyes so
that we may see?
Christ says He is at the door, He is showing us
new knowledge. Will we open the door to Christ when He
knocks?
When things are
fine and sunny that is when God asks DO YOU BELIEVE
ME? Jacob’s trouble may not start tomorrow. So will we
laugh at the warning and disbelieve the new truths
when they are given to us.
Will we be like
the people in Noah’s day and ignore this end time
message? Or will we believe and go into the protection
which God provides? {Some will be spared the coming
trouble, some saints will be martyred.}
Brethren Jacob’s
Trouble is real, it is coming, it is going to happen.
We know that God wants to know if we will believe Him
in peace time. It will be too late once things start
to happen. The church is being measured right now. The plumb
line has now been dropped. Where are you standing?
Are you for God
or are you not?
This is the
Laodicean church.
Mr. Armstrong was
the physical leader of the Philadelphian era of the
church. But Mr. Armstrong died in 1986.
This is the
Laodicean church on whom the end of the ages have
come.
It is only fitting to end this end time new knowledge
with the words of our saviour and Lord Jesus Christ.
Let us give thanks to God that the time has now
come for the Father to be revealed to us His servants.
Joh 16:25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.
